Israel: No Cease-Fire in Coming Days

QANA, Lebanon – Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert said Monday the Israeli offensive against Hezbollah guerrillas in southern Lebanon would continue “in the air, at sea and on land.”[Read more]

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Posted on July 31, 2006, in News and politics. Bookmark the permalink. 7 Comments.

  1. Calls for peace fall on deaf ears in the last days. In the days before the Savior comes, the people of the world desire war.

    You cannot be for peace and for war at the same time. It is impossible.

  2. Dan, the only reponse to this logical fallacy is to call it what it is, a false dichotomy.

    “The logical fallacy of false dilemma (also known as falsified dilemma, fallacy of the excluded middle, black and white thinking, false dichotomy, false correlative, either/or dilemma or bifurcation), involves a situation in which two alternative points of view are held to be the only options, when in reality there exist one or more alternate options which have not been considered. The two alternatives presented are often, though not always, the two extreme points on some spectrum. Instead of such extreme simplification and wishful thinking, considering the whole spectrum, as in fuzzy logic, may be more appropriate.”

  3. So, by that logic, Bush is using a false dichotomy when he said, “you’re either with us or with the terrorists?” you can’t have it both ways, Mr. ldspatriot. Let me use another “false dichotomy.” You can have only one or the other. 😉

  4. Dan, Bush is correct.

    Some battles lines must be drawn and stated clearly.

    Even God said, “for they who are not for me are against me, saith our God” (2 Nephi 10: 16).

    Did God too issue a “false dichotomy”, Dan?

    Seems like Bush and God understand the nature of evil and call it like they see it.

  5. I’m sorry, but there are many ways that one can be against terrorists, and not be for Bush. If you can’t see that, then there is no point in continuing this further.

    Or are you comparing Bush to God? Are you basically saying that being against Bush is akin to being against God?

  6. redhatmandan:

    I am simply countering Dan’s false conclusion (post #3) that the mere use of the phrase “for they who are not for me are against me” is by default a false dichotomy.

  7. btw,

    I’m Dan. Since switching over to wordpress, I’m using this alias (redhatmandan) here. 🙂

    But you are comparing Bush to God, which also is a supremely terrible comparison. God and Bush may have said many things that are similar, that does not make what Bush said correct. I bet I could find many things Hitler said that God also might have said in the Bible, but that does not make what Hitler said right, does it? Say for example, comparing Hitler’s belief in exterminating all Jews. Did not the Lord command the Israelites to exterminate all Canaanites? Why, look, both are the same, that must mean that Hitler was right?

    It is foolish to compare Bush to God, just as it is foolish to compare Hitler to God.

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